1818 modern chinese fake ngc slabbed as genuine
This one deserves to be ensconced herein.
If the encasement is genuine then public humiliation of NGC is in order. It should be front page news. They should know about the chinese counterfiets at this late date. A head or two should roll...then they should go out of bussiness!
Is that thier phone number on the back??
I looked up cert number and the coin there does not appear to be the same one to me - on NGC the coin has inner circle
I have requested permission from NGC to post their picture here.
Here's a link to a website that markets counterfeit large cents among other coins. Note that its construction is quite similar to the ebay domain:
This same seller markets counterfeits that are housed in what appear to be PCGS holders. Check out his "PCGS" MS-64 1909-S VDB's at $150 a pop:
NGC permission to post their picture:
Thanks for the email. Yes, you may repost this picture. I am familiar with
the eBay listing and I believe that it is an altered NGC holder. Our
website pictures indicate that when this holder was shipped from our
offices it had a different (genuine) coin.
This is a screen shot from NGC
SO, in other words this is a fake plastic slab and a fake coin?
Got a nice e-mail from Max. NGC contends that the slab has been altered. Probably a fake coin was placed in one of thier encasements after leaving thier office. The serial number in thier pics match but the cent does not.
I didn't think you could open their slabs without them being detected at a glance. Must be a trick to cracking them that I sure don't know of. Also I thought NGC basically states that their slabs are tamper proof.....Would be nice if we could continue to follow this story and/or issue.