S-214 and 1817 N15? Both very nice!
Nearly all of my large cents have been purchased through Ebay. I have two small local coin shops but I have cleaned them out of older copper and no more seems to be coming in, so Ebay has been where I've had to look.
1831 has always been a favorite date of mine. My first ever large cent was an 1831, though that was so far in the past that I wasn't even aware die varieties existed at the time. Nice LDS and a nice R3!
Nice find - especially at $35.00. It was on my watch list to attribute when I had some free time. There is a decent, but cleaned 1831 N-12 2-point die break active on eBay now.
Nice ebay pick-ups.. like the early date, DennisCD !
Thanks Dave. I also recently grabbed this clean, unattributed 1817 N-1, which even has the rim break between "AM" listed for a low $89 buy-it-now price. Do any of you "pros" know any history on why the 1817 13-Star N-1 and 1817 15-Star N-16 would share the same reverse die with and without this exact same "AM" rim break? These two varieties must have been produced at the same time as each other for this to happen, and if so, why are their Newcomb varieties not side-by-side variety numbers?
One of our senior professionals must know the answer to my question above. I have researched all of my large cent literature, and nothing seems to explain the wide disparity between these two related Newcomb variety numbers.
I hope to see someone answer this soon. I was up against a similarly confusing issue today while attributing some early dates. The obv was barely readable, but the middle of the reverse was in quite good shape. It had some similarities to a 1799 (wishful thinking), but not enough. As I read more of the 1799 reverses, I found the crossover in one 1799 reverse and reverse "GG" of 1798. Wandering through the 1798's caused me to find other partial reverse crossovers within that year in that the die was made from the same hub, but had differing details that I presume were added by hand.
I need a bit of guidance and a reality check from my brethren that are less early date inclined than myself. I found a lot on eBay and put it on my watch list a few days ago when it was on the cheap. I thought it the "perfect" lot to experiment with toning cleaned coins and cleaning nasty coins w/o doing much damage to what was already damaged. I check in tonight and find it, to my mind, astronomically high for the eye appeal level.
Am I simply sorely out of touch, or is there a hidden gem here that I'm missing as an early date guy? I'll be interested for input and to see where this closes.
If anyone has some serious cull that they would part with on the uber-cheap for purposes of the aforementioned experimentation, I'm game. (Or I can return with notes - I have some ideas on cleaning/toning of a kinder and gentler source than straight chemistry). I'd like at least some detail to them so I can get a decent idea of how it works on something other than a slick 2/3 or a "bad asphalt" corrosion factor 20.
If the above ideas went awry, I'd still feel better about ruining my own stock than someone else's.
There are a lot of 'color set' collectors driving up the price of corroded coins. :-)