1847 with left-leaning 7?
I have searched all varieties of 1847 in Grellman and all I can find online and cannot find one with a left-leaning 7. Have I missed one? Or is this what could be called a mint error? Or what is it?
It appears to me that the upright of a “normal” 7 in an 1847 is at about a 70⁰ angle and that the angle between the upright and horizontal arm is about 65⁰. My measurements of the angles of the 7 on my coin are: upright at 60⁰ and the angle between the upright and horizontal arm is about 35⁰.
So a better description of the 7 on this coin would be right-leaning with a narrower angle between the vertical and horizontal aspects. It is only an optical illusion that the 7 leans left because of the narrower angle!
I also notice a curved mark just below star 12. Could this be a die clash? Or perhaps it is damage? There is a small depression from what appears to be damage just to the left of it and inside the curve.
There also appears to be a small die clash or crack between star 13 and the 7 in the date.
I am afraid that the condition of the coin leaves a lot to be desired. It looks mainly like black “stuff” that is caked on. Is that corrosion or what is it? Is there any way to fix that without hurting the coin?
As usual, I have lots of questions!
• from upper right curve of D to dentils half way between D and S
• from dentils above second S in STATES through the top of OF to the dentils above the first A in AMERICA
• from dentils above M through the tops of MERI
These cracks seem to resemble several of the listed varieties, but not exactly any of them. I suppose they could be some kind of intermediate stage…is that what you look for and try to evaluate? It also may be that the condition is poor enough to hide some of the features which would be helpful in attribution.
Thanks for any help.
1847 left 7 Comp.jpg
It looks to me that you have a N-23. Late die state d or e. The 7 is not leaning. It's corroded enough on the left top side of the 7 that just appears to be leaning.
Thanks, Charles - this is very helpful...I see that all of the features in a description do not have to be visible on the coin in hand - something I had suspected but not really known.
It may indeed be an N-23 - especially looking at the features on the reverse (I notice especially: " The section of rim between the cracks over AM shifts inward slightly...").
However, I just looked at a 7 on an N-23 here: http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo...88#14781478332 and the horizontal arm of the 7 compared to the vertical still seem to be at a greater angle than on my coin. Also the bottom of the horizontal arm on my coin seems to point more towards the intersection of the upright of the 4 with its crossbar - which is not the case in the example. So I guess I don't quite understand how the corrosion on the left top side of the 7 could be the entire explanation of what is going on. Any other ideas?
Last edited by Pete2226; 04-27-2013 at 09:45 PM.
Could it be possible that the distorted 7 is due to crumbling? I did not realize that such was possible until I stumbled onto this sentence in 1848 N-25 (Grellman): "The crumbling becomes severe with many letters distorted..." I believe that I found such an example - although the image is a little blurry, look at the C in AMERICA here: