I looked this 1805 in my Manley and it looks like a C4. Am I right? Thanks, Stevelc12 001.jpglc12 002.jpg
I think you nailed it Steve- that's what I see
I agree, looks like a c-4 to me. The feet of T in liberty do not look defective as they are on the C-3, and the lowest loop of curls seems weak.
Definitely the large 5.