3steven2, you by all means are not interrupting but adding to the ongoing conversation(of course we did hijack Dave's topic). I would love to live in a climate where I can/could grow my succulents outdoors all year round. But living outside of Chicago our Frost Free Dates are May 15th through to October 15th(Zone 5). When I ever do get out to California I will definitely have to check out The Huntington Gardens and then of course all the growers too. I have many rare succulents in my collection and as for clubs there is one club but it meets once per month about 60 miles away from where I live. Feel free to talk to me anytime about coins, plants, succulents or anything...as it's fun to find others who enjoy some of the same hobbies and joys in life!!!
Take it easy.....Leo