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    Looks like cud

    This poor old girl has what looks like a major die break on the obverse but I'm not so sure. It wieghs 10.2gm, consistant with it's worn out condition. I don't think it's been heated because it still rings. The reverse die seems to be 31B/35J. Any thoughts?1831N13o.jpg
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    Randy,
    How do you know it is an 1831 N13?
    Looks like it could be a cud

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    Quote Originally Posted by joecopper View Post
    Randy,
    How do you know it is an 1831 N13?
    Looks like it could be a cud
    I don't seriously think that this is a 31/13, I labeled it that because I don't know what it is and there is no such thing as a #13. It could be a 31/2 or a 35/18.
    I did not realize that my photo title would be part of the picture but now I do.
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    Randy,
    makes more sense now - perhaps some of the Late date guys will have an opinion as they have many cud collectors.

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    Your reverse certainly looks to me most like 1835 J, and the position of the very worn star 6 looks most like the position of 1835 N.12, plus the late state rim break at stars 8-9 extended into a full die failure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DennisCD View Post
    Your reverse certainly looks to me most like 1835 J, and the position of the very worn star 6 looks most like the position of 1835 N.12, plus the late state rim break at stars 8-9 extended into a full die failure.
    Possible yes but what seems to be a point against this being a major die failure is that the area opposite the "break" is well struck. I have seen large retained die breaks on condor tokens that are rather well struck on the opposite side -and this may well be a retained die break- but it seems to be way too off set from the normal surface to allow for a good impression of the reverse die. This may just be a damaged coin but I'll hang on to it just in case somebody finds another one
    Randy

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