View Full Version : New Member from Warm Sunny Florida
12-08-2011, 10:38 PM
My name is Jerry and I've had collecting spurts off and on for 50 odd years. My father passed away a few years back and left me a collection of half cents and large cents that I never really looked at. I know from my experience and Heritage auctions that some varieties of coppers are more valuable than others, but I've never seriously looked into the all the aspects of it. Now that I"m retired I'd like to take the journey and learn enough to attribute what I have and prepare it for a future sale.
My question is: What are the best books I should purchase to learn about N numbers and die states and rarity? and where do I purchase them? Any help would be most appreciated.
12-09-2011, 05:40 PM
Welcome to Copper Notes, the best source for the reference materials you'll need is >>> http://www.eacs.org/books.html
12-10-2011, 03:02 PM
Of course, you can always post pics of coins here and maybe we can help you attribute them. Best of luck, Jerry.
12-15-2011, 02:19 PM
The N numbers are Newcomb numbers, and apply to middle date, 1816-1839 and late date 1840 to 1857 large cents.
For the middle dates I have heard positive things about John Wright's 'The cent book'. I use Noyes 'Us large cents 1816-1839' because they show up on ebay occasionally for cheap, they have large pictures and good descriptions which allow for pretty easy attribution.
For late dates I have Grellman's 'The Die Varieties of United States Large Cents 1840 - 1857' which is vastly superior for attribution then Newcomb's original 'United States Copper Cents 1816-1857'. I think most late date collectors use this, it has almost all known die states along with a significant number of photos for the cud die states. Rarity ratings are pretty accurate, but as more of the rare varieties are found some are becoming outdated.
As far as purchasing any of those books, I have not seem Wright's book or Grellman's book sell on ebay for less then it's available directly from the authors, although I did see Grellman's book go for more :) If you are patient you can pick up the middle date Noyes book on ebay for less then list. You can check out Tom Deck's website for information on ordering the books:
One last book which I consider vital is Copper Quotes by Robinson, it's pretty much a complete price guide for half and large cents by variety, with census, rarity, and auction information. Not sure where to get this online, but the EAC website notes: Available from: Jack Robinson, PO Box 430, Centreville, VA 20122. (703) 830-8865. I have never called Jack, but in multiple places in the book he indicates phone calls are welcome for anything related to copper coins :), so I think you are safe calling him.
12-15-2011, 03:41 PM
Thank you all for the welcome and for the info on the books. Beef, I have purchased all 3 that you recommended. Now for some heavy reading and fun attributing.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 4.1.7 Copyright © 2013 vBulletin Solutions, Inc. All rights reserved.