View Full Version : Help with attribution, possible 46n21
11-26-2011, 01:21 PM
I just picked this up off ebay, it has the hole in ear and the date position looks correct for the N15/21 obverse. The back does not appear to have any point down from the T in CENT and UNITE is uncracked. My issue is I can not see any of the obverse die cracks, and I hate to make an attribution based on everything I can't see, as opposed to seeing something specific to a die.
I guess my questions is, can anyone confirm that no other small date 1846 has a hole in the ear, and what are your opionions? If not, I am fairly certain the reverse does not match the N15 which would make it an N21...
Two more close ups of (N)T and UNITED
11-27-2011, 05:11 PM
Have you looked at N11?
11-27-2011, 09:27 PM
I don't think it is - the DRN doesn't quite match. Check out the Holmes coin:
4 is closer to curl, 6 is farther from dentils, and the "hole in ear" is much larger on the Holmes coin. If you find out I'd like to know.
11-27-2011, 10:20 PM
Fred - I don't think it's an n11 as the 6 on the medium date is different.
Tom - thanks for pointing out the position of the 6 relative to the dentils, they are different even though the DRN is pretty close. I have another n21 and the hole in the ear does not look like the Holmes coin either so that was not much of an issue for me.
The more I look at it though i think it's an N-18. The 6 is in the correct position and I just took the coin out and it has some of the diagnostics for that die pairing. I may send this one down to Bob anyway, but at this point I am pretty sure it's an n-18:
11-28-2011, 08:33 PM
I think you nailed it - looks like N18. Grellman can tell you for sure :)
12-19-2011, 11:11 PM
It does not mach my 46 N-21. I think you will find it's a N-18
01-01-2012, 01:32 PM
I have been looking at this piece numerous times. It doesn't seem to match the N15/N21 descriptions except for "to Me" is the hole in the ear. I've mulled over and over on this. I've tried to "fit" it into many of the close DRN varieties but always get stuck with the hole in the ear. I would recommend that you send this one to Bob. There are to my knowledge only two 1846 varieties with a hole in the ear. So in my opinion it doesn't match N18 because that variety doesn't have a hole in the ear.
01-01-2012, 03:33 PM
You have to be careful. What might appear to be a hole in the eye, may not really be. I have 3 N-18 so I can check against the questionable cent. My LDS of the 3 come cost to it, watch looks like more of a hole in ear. Also the DRN on mine match this coin pretty close. Also and I can do this, I have a N-15 and a N-21, checking the 2 of these against this coin the DRN does not match up. One last thing, the hole in ear should be nice and round like on many of the 1854. I still say N-18.
01-02-2013, 10:18 AM
Question, looking at the Reverse on this coin...what is in the right side of the upright of the 'T' of cent? Is it dirt or crud or is that something of interest in assisting to identify this coin!!!
Take it easy.....Leo
01-02-2013, 01:25 PM
That's just crud under the right pendant of the T in CENT. You do know how to make the picture much bigger. Push down the Ctrl button and at the same time move you mouse wheel forwered.
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