View Full Version : Neat Find: 1848 N13 CUD
02-16-2013, 09:27 PM
Take a look at one of my recent finds! :D Looks like a very late die state, certainly Grellman state "B", Noyes state "E" or "F". Not sure what to net grade it due to the roughness and color on the obverse from past corrosion. Opinions are welcome. :confused:
02-17-2013, 01:28 PM
I take a stab at a grade, but I am still learning on this EAC grading stuff.
AU55 details as I don't see much wear. No major hits, but a few minor ticks.
Can't tell from photo if any luster is present.
Looks like it was a well struck coin.
I guess I would do a Net 45, maybe even 40 due to the corrosion, color, surfaces.
Hopefully some of the more experienced people will chime in.
02-18-2013, 11:40 AM
I would bring her in as a net 35. Might be better if I had it hand to see it. But very nice rare cud. I have 5 N-13 all in die state procession from early to late. But none as late as yours. I do not have one with a cud. Great find Frog. Nice cud for the grade. I would be happy to have one like this is even if was only a good.
02-19-2013, 11:12 PM
Thank you for the feedback. I had it graded as AU50 details, net 35, in my records so I think we are all in the ballpark. There is some nice original luster in places on the obverse, that being the reddish brown you see from K2 - K8. The corrosion was worst from K8 - K2, you can see some pitting in front of her nose & mouth and above her head. These fields have the darker tone and roughness. The reverse is better, nice original color and surfaces but some spots as you can see in the pictures--but not the aggressive corrosion. The worst spot on the back is in 'Of' and the wreath right below that & the 2nd "A" of America. The 'roughness' you see in the fields is actually the sinking die all around the legend and even a bit around 'One Cent'.
I was glad to see someone out there really appreciates the rarity of this die state Gary! :D
02-20-2013, 01:26 AM
Very cool find copper frog! With a lot of the rare cud die states you kind of take what you can get condition wise. I think there are around 25 of these known, so you don't exactly have a large population of coins to pick from. If you don't mind me asking, where did you find it?
As far as grade, I agree with 50 net 35, but I am not an expert on grading. Looking at the leaves on the reverse there really does not appear to be much wear.
02-26-2013, 11:48 AM
Copper Frog, I really do like your coin and would love to have and own(even your coin) the 1848 N-13 with the Rim Cud.....maybe some day(I do own an N-13 though, do not remember the State, in XF-45)!!! I am I guess a very strict, conservative grader and would call your coin a Sharpness of XF-45 and a Net of VF-30. As has been stated the color and roughness due to corrosion affect the grade but not the Crumbling or Die Sinking. On the Obverse around the ear there is a little more wear than a Sharpness of AU-50 coin(but okay for a VF-30 or VF-35 coin) should have along with the curl on the neck and the hair curl on the shoulder above Star 13. On the Reverse it's just even wear, color and corrosion which affects the coin. Again as has been stated, I do not have the coin in hand but there is a lot of corrosion on both sides and the color on both surfaces does impact my opinion of the overall grade. To me the coin would have a Net Grade of VF-35 if not for the color and corrosion. In conclusion, I wouldn't kick your coin out of my bed for eating crackers!!!
Take it easy.....Leo
04-04-2013, 09:55 PM
I am looking for a high quality mint state 48 N-13. I need this coin for a special project I'm doing. email@example.com Bill
04-05-2013, 12:03 AM
I noticed Chris Victor McCawley has a nice one on his website, PCGS MS63. It even has the cud on it!
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