View Full Version : Question about Grading on this 1817
09-29-2012, 02:28 AM
How can an MS63 be only an EAC 30/20?
09-29-2012, 04:45 AM
I think the coin has problems on the back that do not matter to the MS63 grader. At least the seller mentioned that the coin has major problems 30/20. It would have been nice if he would have described the damage. I find a problem with the theory that if I take pictures of a coin that is enough. Sometimes the pictures are poor or "worked" on photoshop. I have been guilty of just putting a picture of the coin and saying nothing. It is easy to do, but not quite forthright. We all hope that the damage will be minor in their eyes even though it poor at best.
09-29-2012, 05:40 AM
What seems most perplexing is the sharpness number is VF-30, yet the grader gave it an MS-63?
09-29-2012, 01:49 PM
I seems like coin grading is an olympic event.
The Chinese judge didn't feel the gymnist should lose points after falling, but the Russian judge does.
10-01-2012, 01:13 AM
Well, the 30/20 has to be an error. Grellman graded it 60/55 in the 9/04 sale where Adam's coins were sold. And Hannigan is not asking a VF20 price, more like an AU price, unless you would pay $1000 for a VF coin. He probably copied it from another ebay auction, forgot to revise it for this one.
But look at the coin, the obverse has wear, wear on the hair, the hair bun, over the eye and on the nose. Even with market grading, where coins with wear are called uncirculated, this should not be over MS62. I have thought 63 and up are reserved for truly uncirculated coins. To me, this has sharpness 55, and the dark stains on the reverse, even if they are only stains, are not a minor fault. They glare at you, and cause a minimum 10 point deduction. Therefore 55/45 maximum. The coin is in that old holder from 2004, and you cannot see the reverse; it could be worse.
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